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Bagua Vs Kickboxing (haters be hatin’)

July 24, 2015 by Ben Sterling Leave a Comment

So, a few folks took issue with yesterday’s post: How to recognize a BS Bagua Video

Some were mad that I criticized Kickboxing. I do think Bagua is vastly superior but I never actually said anything bad about Kickboxing so I’m going to ignore them.

Others, had a better argument. They said,

“Hey, wait a minute. When Bagua’s creator Dong Haichuan taught, he mixed Bagua with whatever his students already knew.

…and each student knew different arts. So all Bagua is mixed with other things. This is part of what makes Bagua great and interesting. Who are you to draw a line between which mixtures are and are not Bagua?”

The above statement IS true.

…but it’s still really easy to draw that line.

Here’s how:

All Bagua does Circle Walking and one very big reason for this is because Bagua specializes in dealing with 4 to 8 attackers.

So, if it’s a Bagua Kickboxing hybrid that uses Circle Walking while sparring to effectively handle 4 – 8 opponents then it’s Bagua.

If it doesn’t use circle walking or it falls apart when you start adding more than 2 or 3 opponents then it’s not Bagua.

There are of course, other core principles and body methods that all Bagua shares but those two are a quick and easy way to get a pretty good idea of whether something is Bagua or not.

Sigung Clear demonstrates some of the nuances of tangling up multiple opponents at the 2014 Baguazhang workshop
Sigung Clear demonstrates some of the nuances of tangling up multiple opponents at the 2014 Baguazhang workshop

This functionality against multiple opponents is so integral to Baguazhang that we begin teaching it on day one.

We find that folks who spend a long time doing forms, standing and exercises, often have major holes in skill and bad habits that must be corrected once they learn the functional side of fighting multiple attackers.

When you start with a functional understanding of fighting multiple opponents it’s much easier to train forms and exercises correctly. That way you avoid the bad habits and progress much faster.

The Bagua Intensive features in depth training in fighting multiple opponents with an emphasis on how to apply different Bagua circles, Spins of all sizes (90 degree up to 720) and much more.

Begin training as soon as you sign up:

https://www.clearmartialarts.com/bagua-online/

Filed Under: Baguazhang

How to recognize a BS Bagua video.

July 23, 2015 by Ben Sterling Leave a Comment

Today I just had to get out my soapbox.

There are any number of things that could be slightly off with a Bagua video. Most aren’t worth commenting on but this one is a particular pet peeve.

That is folks trying to pass off kickboxing as Bagua.

There are growing number of Bagua videos out there where the Bagua player squares off against an opponent and proceeds to kickbox with them.

…and this is supposed to somehow show their Bagua skill.

Thing is, Kickboxing ain’t Bagua.

Especially when it’s bad kickboxing with poor movement.

…but even good kickboxing is not Bagua.

Circle Walking is for Fighting!
Circle Walking is for Fighting!

You know all that that circle walking practice Bagua does?

…you’re supposed to fight with that.

When Baguazhang fights it’s either walking or running a circle. Often more than one.

This is essential against multiple opponents. As soon as you square off against one opponent you become a sitting duck for all the others.

Of course there are many different ways to do Bagua but they all walk circles and deal with multiple attackers.

Why Kickboxing?

I don’t know why Bagua folks feel the need to switch to kickboxing when they spar.

Especially after they put in all that time walking in circles.

You can find the error in different Bagua systems from different lineages. So there’s no single source to point to.

My best guess is that because boxing & kickboxing methods are so common they’re much easier for people to understand. Because good Bagua info is much harder to find, and Bagua is so weird and complex, it’s much easier for folks to fall back on what they’re comfortable with instead of pushing themselves to advance their skills.

I’m all for people using good things to make their personal methods better.

…but using a few Bagua techniques to make your kickboxing better doesn’t make it Bagua.

This wouldn’t be a problem except that Bagua is not very well known. So when people go look it up on Youtube and see a bunch of mislabeled Kickboxing videos Bagua becomes known as Kickboxing with a few weird training methods.

We created the Free Fundamentals of Baguazhang course to help combat this by providing a solid introduction to how Bagua fights.

The goal is to put out enough quality information that anyone digging around online for 10 minutes can get a rough idea of what Bagua is really about.

But we can’t do it alone. There are 3 things you can do to help:

  1. Study the program. Practice and build the skills taught in the program so that you can become an example of what Bagua can do.
  2. Share it with others. Bagua needs people. You can’t fully train the proper spatial understandings without several people to practice with. The more people training Bagua (of any kind) the more training partners we have and the better we all get.
  3. The Fighting Fundamentals is a good start but it only scratches the surface. If you find you really enjoy the art of Bagua take it to the next level.

Sign up for the Baguazhang Intensive while it’s still open and get an in depth education in Bagua.

This course is packed with step by step instruction. For long list of what you’ll learn in this course go here:

https://www.clearmartialarts.com/bagua-online/

Enrollment closes on July 31st and won’t re-open for another year. So don’t miss it.

Filed Under: Baguazhang Tagged With: Baguazhang

The 5 Essential Baguazhang Circles to Walk

July 22, 2015 by Ben Sterling Leave a Comment

In Baguazhang it is essential to know exactly how far away each opponent is at all times.

The instant you don’t know how close someone is you are in trouble. Especially when facing multiple attackers.

Circle Walking is key in developing this skill.

There are 3 circles you must have and 2 more that are very useful.

How to measure a Baguazhang Circle.

A Baguazhang circle is customized for your body.

The spatial understanding you are developing is for you. Even though your opponents may come in many shapes and sizes, your body is a consistent frame of reference that is always present.

Circles are measured using the number of steps it takes to walk the circumference.

So an 8 step circle means it takes 8 steps to walk around the entire circle and end where you started.

Of course, your step length is a horribly imprecise unit of measure.

It changes constantly. In the beginning this can be a problem but with a little practice you will use it to your advantage.

The height of your stance determines how far you can step as well as your reach.

In the beginning, use a consistently low stance until you can instinctively determine the distance of 6 or more people surround you.

Once you can do that, begin playing with the height of your stance until you intuitively understand how it affects your reach & circle size.

Bagua is NOT stationary.

When Bagua fights it is always walking or running a circle.

…and your opponents will not stand still.
When you train your distances you should be moving, your opponents should be moving & your circle should be moving.

You might look at distances while stationary for a minute or two when you first start training this skill.

That is all.

[Note: It’s ok to train at a speed so slow that you would appear stationary to a brief glance.]

Circle sizes:

The essential circles you need to practice:

  • 4 step circumference – Your hand can touch the opposite side of the circle.
    8 step circumference – Your hand can touch the center of the circle.
    16 step circumference – This puts you one step out of kicking range. Meaning you cannot reach an opponent but with one step towards the center you could.

These 3 should be your primary area of focus.

However, you’ll find two other distances very useful.

  • 12 step circumference – The point halfway between 8 & 16 is important to know.
  • 2 step circumference – This is a 360 spin. It’s important to remember these should not happen in place. You should also be moving along a larger circle. (except in rare instances.)

In the Baguazhang Intensive online course Sigung Clear teaches you how these distances and the interplay between circle sizes is used to control a group of attackers.

There is also a Chapter just on the martial application of spins including the 360 along with the 90, 120, 270, 540 & 720 degree spins.

Of course, there is much more to circle walking that just memorizing fighting distances and we get into some of those other uses as well.

Enrollment is only open until July 31st. After that it will close until next year.

https://www.clearmartialarts.com/bagua-online/

Filed Under: Baguazhang

Don’t make this Baguazhang mistake! 3 reasons you should NOT walk a fixed circle.

July 21, 2015 by Ben Sterling Leave a Comment

In Baguazhang it’s common to see folks walk a circle that’s been drawn on the floor.

This is a mistake.

Don’t get me wrong, it can be a great teaching aid to help students visualize a circle and if you can’t walk around a drawn circle you need to spend a few hours building that skill.

…then it’s time to graduate from that practice or your skill will stagnate in several important areas.

There are 3 basic reasons training on a fixed circle is a problem:

1. Circle size is relative to your body.

When working with a group it’s very common for folks to share circles and work from the circle size of whoever is leading. This means for everyone with slightly shorter or longer legs the circle is not correct. (unless you fully understand points 2 & 3)

2. A circle drawn on the floor can’t move.

For a day 1 beginner it is useful to walk a fixed circle for a short period of time.

However, if you want to make your Bagua functional the circle needs to come with you wherever you go.

3. The Circle must change size.

In addition to following you around, the Bagua circle also must change size to according to your needs at any given moment.

There are 3 basic circle sizes you should acquaint yourself with right away and a couple others that are quite useful.

Tomorrow, we’ll get into exactly what those sizes are and how to measure them.

In the Bagua Intensive course Sigung Clear goes in depth into how these different circle sizes are used against multiple attackers.

Enrollment in the Bagua Intensive Closes next week.

You can also get start with our free course The Fighting Fundamentals of Baguazhang

Filed Under: Baguazhang Tagged With: Baguazhang

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